Practitioners whose experience of the non-dual state has had an unequivocal effect on perceptions in daily life, are people who are no longer subject to sulkiness, sullenness, and surliness.p19, Emailing the Lamas from Afar, Ngakpa Chögyam and Khandro Déchen, Aro Books, 2009, ISBN 978-0-9653948-5-7