Why would you want to persuade anyone to do anything apart from what was going to be beneficial? It would be deranged. With the realised protectors‚ we have the example of terrific power being controlled in such a way as to serve practitioners. p246, Warp and Weft of Wonderment, Ngakma Mé-tsal, Aro Books Worldwide, 2024, ISBN 9781898185680